Jack Tracy and Jordan Bell talk Danny Will Die Alone season 2

The multi-talented Jack Tracy is again on our screens with the second season of his comedy collection Danny Wil Die Alone, streaming completely on Dekkoo.  Jack, the present’s creator, author, director and star, takes us alongside on the additional romantic misadventures and relationship disasters of the present’s titular character. Followers of the present can count on extra of Danny’s wild escapades, together with episodes tackling polyamory, the idea of being a “aspect,” open {couples}, and even some taboo matters like fisting and exploring gender norms.

This season, Canadian actor Jordan Bell joins the present as Matty, Danny’s common hookup buddy. His presence provides a layer of drama that offers Danny’s character new emotional depth. Matty serves as Danny’s go-to for normal intimacy between his relationship life and their dynamic brings a brand new dimension to Danny’s journey.

Season two additionally marks a collaboration with Jack Tracy’s musical work. The collection options all-new music from his forthcoming album, Glorify. The season’s theme tune, “Duality,” is offered throughout all streaming platforms now. As well as, Jack has additionally revived the podcast that began all of it, Dying Alone, Collectively. The podcast affords behind-the-scenes insights into seasons one and two and options particular company.

We had the prospect to speak with these proficient actors in regards to the new season, the chemistry between their characters, disastrous dates and extra in our unique interview.

Initially, congratulations on season two. Did you’ve gotten the storyline deliberate out for what was going to occur in season two whereas season one was happening? Did you sort of know Danny’s trajectory?

Jack Tracy: Not within the slightest. After I was making season one, that was just a bit internet collection I used to be doing by myself. Dekkoo reached out to us in January and mentioned, “Hey, love your present, would like to make it into an authentic collection for us, however to take action we’d take what you’ve gotten already and package deal that as season one after which once we make investments for season two, we would like longer episodes with a storyline” – which was by no means what we deliberate for an internet collection.

So now that we’re like a TV present, it is like, okay, I’ve bought it. That is the place Matty got here from. That is the place the by way of line of exploring extra about Danny got here from as a result of, at its inception, it was actually all meant to be little 10-minute blips of various dates and now we truly get to know Danny as an individual and there is a story. So, no, none of that was deliberate.

What was prefer it like filming the second season realizing that you simply had longer episodes and realizing that you simply had been making a storyline? How did the manufacturing change over time?

Jack: Properly, I used to be very lucky that I had finished again after I was working with out Dekkoo, my collection Historical past, which now we have three seasons of, which had been six half-hour episodes. So, I’ve already finished this schedule earlier than. What was good is that I now work at a job that actually helps what I do, so I used to be capable of take the day without work and never need to run and movie a scene after work or kill my weekends. I used to be capable of take the time and concentrate on this. I’ve Joseph Patrick Conroy, who’s my co-producer and director of pictures, who makes it look so good. The look of the collection is an enormous improve, in order that was an enormous change after which, after all, Dekkoo’s assist, truly having the funds to essentially step it up made it a lot simpler than operating across the metropolis with a digicam like I used to do.

Certainly one of my favourite issues in regards to the season was the introduction of Matty. Jordan, how did you become involved with the present?

Jordan Bell: I merely auditioned. I wasn’t accustomed to Jack’s work earlier than this. I bought despatched a few scenes to placed on tape and ship that over and I bear in mind after I first bought it, I assumed, I do not know if I get the character of Matty, as a result of Matty may be very direct. He is one-word solutions. He is a bit of gruff. He is a bit of quiet and I am your native pleasant Canadian. I feel I am all people’s greatest buddy. So, I put these items on tape and I despatched it off not realizing if I might ever hear again and a few weeks later I bought requested to return and do a chemistry learn with Jack.

I bought despatched I bought despatched two entire episodes to learn, and a pair scenes in them, and I simply bear in mind considering that is so fascinating. It is so humorous, it is so biting, nevertheless it’s so present. And, once we met, I knew immediately we had this actually nice chemistry as a result of Jack created it, and he is aware of this present backwards and forwards, however he is additionally giving such a improbable efficiency as a result of it is simply so ahead and current and so humorous and the conduit for the viewers.

I bear in mind we had this nice chemistry and this nice learn and I could not take my eyes off him. And I assumed that is one thing actually thrilling – and that was kind of when the character began to make extra sense to me and I began to see it and notice it.

After I had spoken with Jack about season one, he had sort of described Danny as like an alternate universe, evil David Schitt from Schitt’s Creek. How would you describe Matty and is there any of you in that character?

Jordan: Oh yeah, after all there’s.  Oh, David Schitt is nice. I all the time mentioned he was like a warped David Schitt.

Jack: Properly, in the event you bear in mind, Jordan, I had given you as kind of a background, as kind of like my inspiration for the character, Mickey Malkovich from Shameless.

Jordan: Yeah, you are proper. I do not know if I’ve a direct comparability for who I feel Matty is, however I feel Matty is that if not Wall Avenue man, he is a monetary man right here in New York in his 30s. He does effectively, he is engaging, he has that kind of Patrick Bateman condominium. He has guys on the go, he is a fuckboy. I do not suppose he is a foul man, however he is a nuisance.  He is a menace. That is what he’s.

The chemistry between your characters is simply so actual. You mentioned you simply sort of hit it off, however did you do something to foster that relationship to make it look so plausible? 

Jack: I do not, not on set. So, you recognize, we do the auditions. We’re very communicative. [Jordan] and I had been texting effectively earlier than we bought on set simply to speak about issues, however apart from the auditions and the chemistry learn, we actually did not even do something till we bought on set and began taking part in. Due to Dekkoo’s assist, we had the flexibility to carry a set for some time so we are able to play and we are able to determine issues out. In prior productions, you recognize, you bought two hours, no matter you bought filmed, you bought filmed and that is the present. So, we had been truly capable of, nevertheless it was simply very pure.

Jordan: Yeah, we actually, we hit it off immediately. It was obvious, like I mentioned, from that very first assembly. However then additionally we having seen the present, we spent loads of time in numerous levels of largely undress and I feel that it is a bonding alternative. I feel at first I bear in mind the very first day I used to be a bit of nervous, not nervous, however what am I doing? However then, after a really brief time, it turns into regular. I feel that it is also a bonding alternative for us to only be like, we’re on this collectively. We’re one another’s security nets.

From my standpoint, we did not actually have loads of work. There would sometimes be one thing the place perhaps I might give Matty, a special intention, like, “oh, as a result of this occurs later, this must be a bit of extra of this” after which we would shift, nevertheless it’d be so seamless. It was really easy. 

I sort of know the reply to this out of your speaking, however was there improvisation on the set or was it very scripted? 

Jack: I imply, it’s extremely closely scripted and there have been moments, I feel, the place you [Jordan] would are available with concepts and also you’d say, “Hey, I actually need to do this.” And we’d do a take or two with a special punchline or a special ending line or one thing like that. However for essentially the most half, it was primarily based on the scripts that we got here in with. 

The present covers some matters that are not often seen on display and there are loads of very intimate scenes between the 2 of you. What was the expertise of bringing that to the display like? 

Jack: Properly, there’s nothing much less horny than filming a intercourse scene – and that’s no disparagement to the good-looking co-star that I’ve. That’s as a result of, particularly for me, I am doing six issues directly. I am remembering my traces, I am doing a efficiency, I am fascinated by lighting, I am doing the choreography, I am coordinating with the director of pictures, there is a sound man within the room, there is a PA, Stella – who we cherished – she’s hanging out exterior whereas we’re doing this.

When I attempt to clarify to individuals, particularly after I go on dates and so they’re like “you are within the present and also you’re bare with all these dudes”, I am like, look.  It is dance, it is choreography, you recognize, we get in place and it is like, okay, three seconds of this, you are going to transfer right here, I will transfer right here, the digicam’s going to maneuver right here, go. It is simply very mechanical. It was by no means awkward with Jordan, however there have been just a few moments the place we would be ready between setups and he is actually between my legs and I am trying up at him and we’re like, hello, like, that is bizarre.

Jordan: Yeah, it’s extremely technical. There may be nothing horny about it. And I imply, we have all heard each actor on this planet who’s finished intercourse scenes says this in press and in interviews.  And it is not that I did not imagine them, however till you get to do it, it is not that it is not enjoyable, nevertheless it’s not horny. There’s nothing thrilling about it.

And so, you prep for it and also you come on to set ready and also you follow it with the choreography after which as soon as the cameras begin rolling, you may sort of neglect it. You may dig into the scene and you may neglect the cameras are there and it is fantastic for that minute, for these two minutes that you simply’re filming.

After which like Jack mentioned, when the cameras cease and so they say, “Reduce, maintain, we will do it once more in a second,” there’s simply two people who find themselves bare – minus little bits and items protecting whatnot – and also you’re simply sort of holding there and also you’re sweating and also you’re respiration onerous, and that is when it will get awkward – not awkward, however similar to, “Oh, what’s my life?”

Piggybacking on the final query, was there something that Dekkoo mentioned that you simply couldn’t do on the collection?

Jack: No, and in reality, spoiler alert, we do see one dick. It’s a photograph. It’s not an in-person factor, however I knew [Danny] bought the image as a result of within the script that was already there. I knew that was taking place, however I all the time deliberate to kind of like blur it. After which I texted Brian over at Dekkoo and I mentioned, “Can we present a dick? Might I truly do that?” And he is like, “go for it.” So, I referred to as a buddy who I knew had a photogenic dick and I requested if I might use it, and so we did. However no, in actual fact, something I’ve requested for, they’ve given me full artistic management.

What do you suppose the viewers’ response of Danny was within the first season and do you suppose that feeling goes to vary over season two?

Jack: Properly, it is humorous, as a result of how individuals reacted to Danny was not what I anticipated in any respect. I used to be stunned by the quantity of people that reached out to me to say that they actually like Danny and need him to seek out love. As a result of my opinion of the character is he is sort of a shit, and I do not know if I might empathize with him. However audiences do, so I am not going to knock it, however I used to be stunned by how a lot empathy there was for him.

I feel season two will get a bit of bushy since you get Matty, and the rationale Matty exists is Danny wanted a foil. In a 10-minute episode, it is fantastic for Danny to only monologue the digicam and go on his little journey and all people have a very good chortle. However to make that work for 20 minutes, he actually must bounce off of somebody aside from the digicam, and seeing him bounce off of another person signifies that Danny’s not completely accountable for what is going on on, so he’ll make errors, he’ll say some stuff you will not admire, he’ll act methods you do not like. So, I feel Danny simply will get extra sophisticated. 

As spoiler-free as we are able to do that, in season 3 the place would you want your characters to go?

Properly, I do know precisely the place they go, as a result of I simply completed the scripts for season 3. And for example that season 2 offers a very good launching level to be taught extra about Matty in season 3 and so they proceed being a foil for one another and simply heightening the stakes even additional.

What are you hoping that audiences are going to remove from this season of Danny? 

Jack: What do I need individuals to remove? Properly, to start with, I need them to chortle. That’s meant to be a comedy greater than any of the commentary we’re doing greater than any of the illustration that we’re doing. You are presupposed to chortle out loud. You are presupposed to be shocked by a number of the issues we do and say – however that ought to all come from a spot of authenticity. It ought to really feel very acquainted to a homosexual man who dates in a metro space. It is best to see this and go, “Oh my God, I do know precisely what that’s and I am unable to imagine they put that on tv.” That’s what I hope individuals get from it. I hope they chortle and I hope they actually like the brand new characters.

Jordan: I need individuals to chortle. I need individuals to be shocked by it. However greater than something, you recognize, in an ideal world, I need individuals to look at this present, watch it on their very own, watch it with whoever you are relationship, watch it with buddies. I need watch events, as a result of I feel, what you mentioned, I feel it’s actually it is humorous and it is an alternate universe, however it’s actually genuine, and I feel that what you mentioned earlier about it, it is showcasing some issues that are not essentially seen on TV or in media.

I feel the present can actually open loads of conversations and dialogue and about what queer relationship in 2024 is like and what a number of the enjoyable and quirky and kinky and wild issues are – and in addition what perhaps a number of the not so enjoyable issues are. I feel the present can open loads of conversations.

Jack, once we talked earlier than you advised me you had been going to make use of some new music out of your upcoming album, Glorify. Do you’ve gotten a favourite monitor off that album?

Sure – and it is one which’s not even within the present. It is referred to as “Contact” and I will launch it someday, nevertheless it’s all the time the latest one which I’ve finished as a result of my subsequent thought is all the time my favourite thought. That is simply the final one I put collectively for that album however the entire album may be very intercourse ahead greater than I’ve ever finished. It is just about all specific tracks however we preview a brand new monitor on the finish of every episode of Danny in season two. The singles “Duality” and “Overdriver” are out now and “Fill Me Full” comes out subsequent week, the remaster, with a music video, so verify that out. We’ll sprinkle out some extra over the spring till the album’s launch. 

You’ve got bought the accompanying podcast Dying Alone Collectively, and you are going to be recapping and discussing the episodes and giving some behind-the-scenes perception on season two, appropriate?

Sure, I am simply ready. We’re ending season one now, I’ve bought two extra episodes to go, after which it’s going to debut the Monday after the Thursday that season two begins airing weekly. The episode will air on a Thursday and the next Monday, there will be a podcast the place I will speak in regards to the episode, some behind-the-scenes issues, hopefully get some actors to return again and chat with me. However that podcast known as Dying Alone Collectively and it was truly the impetus. It existed earlier than Danny and the tales that got here out of that podcast are what influenced the creation of Danny within the first place. So, it is a good kind of full-circle second.

Will you be persevering with it after the season is over?

Jack: TBD. Relies upon how effectively it is doing, what the response is. We’ll see.

Properly, I’ve sort of an off-beat query to ask you, might you share one in every of your worst private relationship experiences? 

Jack: Properly, how about one from yesterday? So yesterday, I am on a date with this man, and he is a physician, and we’re speaking in regards to the silly stuff just like the fitness center and food regimen and this and that and we’re lamenting about exes which have weighed their meals earlier than and I am like, I am not that sort of man so I simply be certain I get sufficient protein in order that I can construct muscle and he seems me up and down and asks, however is it working? That was an ideal first date. I requested for the verify.

Jordan: The one which all the time stands out in my thoughts is from a pair years in the past. I used to be seeing this man. Issues had been early, however we had been seeing one another for a bit of bit and we went out to Hearth Island collectively. We had been having an ideal day and we ended up at one of many little home events that you find yourself at. I used to be speaking to a brand new buddy who was staying on the home and the man I used to be speaking to…I suppose I used to be making some feedback about how I got here right here with my boyfriend or the man I used to be seeing, and he mentioned, that man? And I seemed over and I mentioned, yeah, that man. And he mentioned, Oh, he isn’t into you.

And I mentioned, what do you imply? And he mentioned, no, he isn’t into you. If he was into you, he’d be speaking with you now. He is over there attempting to get laid. It sort of caught me off guard at first and over the following, I do not know, 10, quarter-hour at this home get together, and I am in my little Speedo.  I am considering, wait, yeah, you are proper. This man’s a jerk. I got here right here with a boyfriend, he got here right here with me as his buddy. And so, I simply had this realization at this home get together.

So, I simply picked up my stuff, I walked to the entrance, I put my sneakers on, and I bought the ferry dwelling again to Manhattan. About eight hours later, round 10:30, 11 o’clock that night time, I bought a textual content from my boyfriend saying, “Hey, I do not know the place you ended up, however I feel I will spend the night time right here.” And I simply wrote again and I mentioned, “I have been again within the metropolis for about six hours now.”

What’s subsequent for each of you, apart from Season 3, after all? 

Jordan: I will be heading as much as Toronto to work on a mission, truly this coming week. Toronto is the place I am initially from. I grew up there and I spent a bunch of time there and I will be doing a play there for the winter. I am actually enthusiastic about that. It is good to go dwelling. It is good to be dwelling for the vacations and to work with loads of the individuals who I got here up with. I will be there by way of January after which I come again to the town and that is once we’ll begin filming season three.

Jack: I shall be releasing music within the interim and, clearly, selling the present. The present’s going to premiere throughout December after which pre-production for season three begins in January. So, I’ve bought to start out reserving stuff and hiring extra actors whereas on the similar time releasing music and music movies. That is actually it for me.

New episodes of Danny Will Die Alone season 2 will launch weekly starting November 14 on Dekkoo. Comply with the present on Instagram and sustain with the Dying Alone Podcast here. Comply with Jack on YouTube, Instagram and Spotify. Comply with Jordan on Instagram.

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